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At the Uppsala Gala Dinner, Bob Jones of EGEE handed over to Steven Newhouse of EGI his most prized possession — a crown made from all the name tags he collected from conferences in the past six years. Image courtesy GridTalk
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After six years, on 1 May, EGEE will hand over responsibility for the world’s largest grid infrastructure to a new organization dedicated to its coordination and development (EGI.eu), and its newly elected director, Steven Newhouse.
During its lifetime, EGEE — Enabling Grids for E-SciencE — assembled a world-wide infrastructure of CPU cores, hosted by computing centers around the world. Each month, about 13 million jobs are executed on the EGEE Grid.
This massive multi-disciplinary production infrastructure was led until now by Bob Jones who initially, like Steven, held the position of technical director at EGEE, and quickly advanced to project director.
During the 5th and last EGEE User Forum in Uppsala, Sweden, Rüdiger Berlich of Karlsruhe Institute of Technology discussed with Bob and Steven topics ranging from the need for sustainability to the relationship between grids and clouds. Here are their comments, in Question-and-Answer format.
Rüdiger Berlich: How would you, in a few words, define today’s grid infrastructures?
Steven Newhouse: Grids are effectively a mechanism for bringing together computing resources located in different administrative domains for secure accounted for access.
Bob Jones: In terms of grid infrastructure deployment, it is at a global level which has reached production operation. However, there is still a lot of work to be done to make grids easier to use and cheaper to operate.
Berlich: Where does EGEE fit into this?
Jones: EGEE has done a lot of work to push forward production grid deployment and acted as a good showcase of what is possible with production grids.
Newhouse: EGEE has been working for 6 years — and for 3 years in the European Data Grid before this — on these secure, accounted-for access mechanisms for services needed to support high-throughput data analysis.
Berlich: Can you describe the organization's major achievements ?
Jones: Putting in place the largest collaborative production grid infrastructure in the world for e-science. We have demonstrated that such a production infrastructure can be used by a wide range of research disciplines. It has produced scientific results in these disciplines and allowed us to do things which would not have been possible without this infrastructure.
Thus, through EGEE, scientists were able to do more science and on a larger scale, and get results in a shorter time frame. EGEE has formed collaborations within Europe and allowed Europe to collaborate as a whole with other regions. This will last.
Berlich: Can you give us a few numbers regarding the total investment in grid infrastructures over the course of EDG's and EGEE(I-III)'s lifetime?
Jones: The European Commission has contributed about 70 million euros. The total budget was in the range of 150-200 million euros, depending on how the partners’ contributions are counted.
Berlich: Can you describe the infrastructure that has been created ?
Jones: EGEE is present in 50 countries around the world. 300 sites contribute to its infrastructure, comprising some 150,000 CPU cores. There are more than 15,000 users. The majority of these users will continue to have access to resources via National Grid Initiatives (NGIs) — these are organizations such as the D-Grid alliance, which manage aspects of national grid deployment — inside of EGI.
"50 countries, 300 sites, 150,000 CPU cores, 15,000 users" — Bob Jones, on EGEE
Berlich: What is the relationship between EGEE and the Worldwide LHC Computing Grid (WLCG)?
Jones: There are several layers. First of all, there is a continuous exchange of ideas, people and technology. While EGEE has been a multi-disciplinary infrastructure from day one, WLCG has specifically been created for the needs of the LHC experiments and collaborations. LCG makes use of several grid infrastructures, of which EGEE is the largest. Other infrastructures include OSG in the US and NDGF in the Nordic countries.
Berlich: Where do you see major differences between grids and clouds, and where do they overlap?
Jones: They share the same heart. Amazon-style clouds provide users with a simpler interface than EGEE. By the same token, their middleware is also simpler. Clouds have a far more understandable and obvious business model. The e-science grid world is all about collaboration — bringing together resources that partners had anyway. Clouds cannot satisfy all the needs of grid users today. In particular, aspects of collaboration and result-sharing in virtual organizations are not well covered by clouds today, but will probably come in the future. Many of the more complex data management aspects are not there either at this time.
Berlich: Will grids and clouds converge ?
Jones: Aspects of clouds are picked-up and must be implemented in grids. In particular, the interface must get simpler. Virtualization is already present in both and will become even more present in grids, as time goes by.
I strongly believe we will see links being developed between commercial cloud offerings and collaborative grids.
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